Well done adamah We could be on to something here.
We humans have struggled along on our own for too long.
Perhaps we need a - Get Gods Back to Work Campaign.
so bring it on, and lay the evidence on me, kate (but perhaps you should start a new thread).-adam.
it does not prove god exists, there is no substantial evidence god is real.
if one is a self labeled atheist, one has no desire to see gods fingerprints in organic chemistry.
Well done adamah We could be on to something here.
We humans have struggled along on our own for too long.
Perhaps we need a - Get Gods Back to Work Campaign.
so bring it on, and lay the evidence on me, kate (but perhaps you should start a new thread).-adam.
it does not prove god exists, there is no substantial evidence god is real.
if one is a self labeled atheist, one has no desire to see gods fingerprints in organic chemistry.
Why are you believers so hung-up on one God? If you are going to do the God thing, why not have at least 20 Gods and Goddesses? Gods and Goddesses work much harder for you when they have to compete to stay on the list.
Nothing sharpens their performance more than the threat of redundancy. They have to earn their keep like anyone else. It’s not as though they’re busy creating the world any more. They can’t just swan around in heaven all day eating ambrosia and passing judgment on hard working people. In my day Caesar was never so lenient. Lazy Gods got thrown to the lions!
january 2014 watchtower study article.
let your kingdom comebut when?.
this generation will not pass away.
Fisherman What do you think is the move (change). How can GC be defined and keep 'this generation"
The Watchtower Society missed their chance to wriggle out of their failed claims back in 1995. During that century the faithful men of old had not returned physically as promised. The promised return of Jesus to earth had been explained away as an invisible return that they had failed to notice. It was now claimed that many of the promises regarding Israel had been fulfilled on the Witnesses in a spiritual or pictorial way. The promised paradise was, for now, a spiritual paradise. It would have only been one step more for the Society to declare that Armageddon was to be fought in a spiritual realm and would be one more invisible fulfilment not seen by the membership. In other words invisible, unseen, imagined. The Watchtower Society could have written another book explaining that Armageddon had already taken place invisibly but they had missed this event too, but could explain it all, using that wonderful tool of hindsight. Perhaps giving the due apology for having encouraged some of the older members to spend their lives speculating about how many days or years make up a generation. Instead they said:
Eager to see the end of this evil system, Jehovah’s people have at times speculated about the time when the ‘great tribulation’ would break out, even tying this to calculations of what is the lifetime of a generation since 1914. However we ‘bring a heart of wisdom in.’ Not by speculating about how many days or years make up a generation, but by thinking about how we ‘count our days’ in bringing joyful praise to Jehovah. (Psalm 90:12) Rather than provide a rule for measuring time, the term ‘generation’ as used by Jesus refers principally to contemporary people of a certain historic period, with their identifying characteristics. Is anything to be gained, then, by looking for dates or by speculating about the literal lifetime of a ‘generation’? Far from it! Therefore, in the final fulfilment of Jesus’ prophecy today, ‘this generation’ apparently refers to the people of the earth who see the sign of Christ’s presence but fail to mend their ways. Does our more precise viewpoint on ‘this Generation’ mean that Armageddon is further away than we had thought? Not at all! The Watchtower 1 November 1995 - pages 17-20
Not at all! What a whopping great pork pie.
so bring it on, and lay the evidence on me, kate (but perhaps you should start a new thread).-adam.
it does not prove god exists, there is no substantial evidence god is real.
if one is a self labeled atheist, one has no desire to see gods fingerprints in organic chemistry.
KateWild The Greeks and Romans including the Caesars believed they had more that 300 gods and goddesses. It turned out they had imagined them all.
Now a mere gladiator can not be smarter than Caesar, as a slave can not be greater than his master.
So logically, we must conclude that there are no gods only gladiators. Hope this helps you in your search for the Holy Grail.
any one out there doing field service?
i have not gone out on that day in years.
and have no intention of ever doing that again.
Going to an indian restaurant at lunchtime with a few friends, then back to my place for further refreshment.
It's becoming a popular way to spend Xmas lunch here in the UK.
it has been about 2000 years since jesus walked the earth and has been hailed as the son of god by christians .. the jews refuse to acknowledge jesus as the son of god.. the muslims recognise jesus as only a prophet .. their are billions of christians earth wide.
their are at least a billion muslims world wide.
i`m sorry i dont know how many jews their are world wide ( please add the 6 million who died in concentration camps ).
Perry "You appear trapped in an illogical mental prison."
Perry when it comes to being trapped in an illogical mental prison, you're a lifer.
january 2014 watchtower study article.
let your kingdom comebut when?.
this generation will not pass away.
Finkelstein The Jehovah's Witnesses is one bat shit crazy religion, has been from the very start.
So true, but can you name a successful religion that is not bat-shit crazy?
it has been nice talking with you.but i seem to upset a few because of my faith.. so have a great christmas.... & be good, i wont be here to send you to your rooms .
i have grown close to many of you.... if i have ever said anything to hurt you sorry!!!!.
when i kick the bucket i am sure "mary" who ssometimes post will let you know.. mouthy grace gough.
You say goodbye and I say hello Hello hello
I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello
Hello hello
I don't know why you say goodbye, I say hello
me just learning the truth about the truth has just made it hard to even get through a two hour meeting at the the kingdom hall.
i get so sleepy during them and i almost cannot contain it!
the last time i went to a convention, i was still an avid believer but as you can see, that has changed.
Now here's a thing - When I was a young man, the highlight of the assembly was meeting girls from other congregations. The strict rules governing such matters had only increased the desire to be together.
For those brave enough to ask a girl to sit with them, the assembly could be spent sitting in the balcony next to the girl of their dreams. I was brave enough, and each assembly became a memory to treasure forever. With tie loosened, love notes were exchanged, and trembling young hands touched under a Bible, as the district servant sung out his words and time faded away.
on my way to work, i saw my neighbour from the next street sitting at the bus stop as usual.
i always offer her a lift and say hello and try to "encourage" her.. the family was in our book study, the kids know i love them to bits.. well did the flood gates open or what, she has got old mags she wants show me, internet websites.
if she is on here she hasn't worked it out yet.
she has got old mags she wants show me...
You should accept them - you never know when the loo-roll is going to run out!